“So the first thing I’m going to do on my nice smooth piece of clay is I’m going to just put this off to the side here and now I’m going to trace around that actual actually that’s remind me that that’s upside down to you. So turn it around here. If I put it right in the middle of the clay, then I, then I’ve, you know, have to roll it out again. And I want to keep all that because I have all these other leaves and stems I’m going to put on there. So I’m just going to take a ballpoint pen and go over my bird with a ballpoint pen. In terms of pressure. It’s the same pressure as if you were riding on it. You’re writing on a paper, but you also, you know, you can poke through it. So, and I probably will do that a couple of times. “

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